My Gen X Playlist: You Oughta Know – Alanis Morisette

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  1. I probably paid way too much attention to the “astronomer kiss cam” story. But you’re absolutely right. If they had played it cool, the story certainly would not have gone viral. Maybe some locals would’ve noticed them. Maybe he would’ve gotten caught cheating, but it certainly would’ve become a national joke.

    It’s hard to be spontaneous in the moment, but I always like the “hiding in plain sight“ idea. I remember the 1993 movie The Fugitive . Right after Harrison Ford’s Richard Kimble dyed his hair and shaves his beard, he’s approached by a cop who shows him a sketch, of Kimble himself, and says “have you seen this man?”

    Kimball‘s response is “yeah. Every time I look in the mirror… You know, except for the beard”.

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  2. That’s right, they needed to play it cool. I still think that his wife knew he was cheating. Women can sense of any suspicious activities their men do. She probably was cool about. Except now it’s public.

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  3. As a betrayed partner, I will comment this. I feel no sympathy for either of them. I agree hiding in plain sight would have been a better strategy than the ducking and diving. However, he showed his true colours when he immediately only looked out for himself.

    And I was madly in love with the father of my children for 31 years.

    And did not know he was cheating. Even if I did, and for some reason (money strings to mind in this case) chose to stay, it wouldn’t have been because I was happy and accepting that he was a cheater. She may or may not have known. I didn’t. Don’t assume. And don’t shame betrayed wives for being stupid for not knowing either.

    Alanis’ lyrics perfectly express the anger at the lies.

    After all, we were promised their love forever.

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      1. Same, GenX.

        Sorry, I wasn’t directing that comment at you, rather at Carolina Mom. I admit I always thought I would know, too.

        I didn’t.

        And I was so ashamed.

        But some cheaters are incredible liars. He still told me every day that he loved me. Regularly that he was lucky to have found me, yada, yada. He was good. None of our friends knew. Not even his best mate.

        Still feel dumb for not knowing though!

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      2. I’m sorry to hear that! I hope you have moved on and living happily now.
        I’m not a therapist or anything, but I’ve helped a lot of friends through tough situations. I talked to three different friends about their relationship struggles, and all of them said they knew their partners were cheating. One ended up getting a divorce, another is still married but secretly dating someone else, and the third is staying with her husband for the kids. None of them are actually happy.

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      3. and this isn’t just something women go through—men face the same struggles too. Women aren’t perfect either; everyone can make mistakes in relationships. We are human and we are just not perfect.

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      4. No need to apologize. I understand this is a sensitive subject, especially for those who went through it. I wouldn’t be so hard on yourself – like you said, some people are good at deceiving others.

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    1. I know people who’ve made unwise decisions that they regret and now are living with the consequences. I think there are different degrees in reactions, mostly depending upon how close you are to the hurt spouse. Or, if there has been personal history that you can relate to. Either way it’s a mess and it’s difficult when you are caught in the middle. I’ve recently been caught in the middle of a situation and sometimes it’s more than I wish to handle.

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      1. I’m sorry. It sucks being in the middle of other people’s emotional dramas, trying to figure out what to say, etc. This is gonna sound weird, but don’t forget you have ChatGPT. I swear, if you type in a nuanced problem or situation, she responds like a real therapist. Very supportive and some good ideas.

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      2. Really now. That sounds interesting. Someone should start up a Dear Abby column and give AI advice! I think I may run through a couple test cases. I’m interested in the response.

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  4. Alanis ‘n Dave Coulier?! I did not know lol!!
    Yeah i mean i feel a tad bit sad for the jumbotron thing too like holy cow, really unfortunate it turned into such a huge and public deal…although i have to say i was loving the memes lol

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  5. I could never picture Dave Coulier and Alanis Morissette as a couple. Plus, there was a pretty big age gap — which feels a little ick. Have you seen the Alanis Morissette documentary? It was really good. Also, there’s a new Alanis Morissette and Carly Simon song out — their version of Coming Around Again. I’m not sure how I feel about it yet, but it’s definitely growing on me.

    That had nothing to do with the post….🤣

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  6. Thank you for your thoughts, CM.

    I just want to very gently say that telling someone who has been traumatised by betrayal (betrayal trauma is incredibly debilitating, you become someone you cannot recognise) to move on is not helpful.

    I have worked INCREDIBLY hard to recover from events that caused me – a sensible, 50 something, well-educated mother and manager – to self harm to avoid unaliving myself. I would NEVER have thought that was possible until the agony of what my love chose hit.

    I know people who knew about a partner cheating.

    And quite a few like me, who didn’t have a clue and were completely blindsided.

    My ex has recently separated from the woman with whom he cheated.

    And repartnered almost “the next day.” I get who he really must be. He masked that from everyone for 31 years.

    I don’t think you move on. I believe you move through, weaving the pain into your story. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy means you realise you can’t ever shrink the pile of 💩 but you can pack lots of lovely things around it.

    I don’t believe in healed anymore, seven years later. But I do believe in healing.

    It’s a journey. Not a destination.

    Thanks for coming to my TedTalk 😂

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  7. We should all be able to reach the catharsis Alanis must have with that song! Much easier to forgive when it redefines and rescales your life! hah

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